Talk:Cave of the Titan/New Trial of the Giant

Simple strategy
What you need:


 * Physical tank with paralyze/stone resistance. Evasion helps but isn't strictly necessary if you have reraise.
 * Provoke tank with paralyze/stone resistance and high SPR. One of these two should have SPR breaks available.
 * Two Tornado chainers
 * Magic-based finisher (Blossom Sage Sakura, Dragonlord, Barbariccia)
 * Healer with paralyze/stone cure and dispel

Titan has a very simple pattern from 100 to 50%. He'll throw out AoE physical moves and single-target magic, which your tanks will absorb. He inflicts paralyze every turn and stone on thresholds. Once you push him past 50%, he'll buff himself and use stone again. On the next turn, he'll snort one of your units and switch tactics, adding AoE magic. The goal is to get bring him down as close to 50% as possible, then nuke him in two turns to avoid the change. Have your Tornado units stagger their Tornado casts to build up esper orbs while your finisher builds up their damage stack (if necessary). Once Titan is near 50, buff as much as possible and use chains+finisher to deal as much damage as possible. As long as it's more than half of what's left, you can dispel Titan's buff and break him again to finish. 107.198.84.4 03:55, 27 July 2018 (UTC) ---

I just used the above strategy with some things I'd like to comment. This may help anyone that cannot setup a high DPS finishing setup. Below 50% each round he only does the AoE Physical as magic dmg (Severe Earthquake) and it cannot be evaded by a physical evade tank. So, I found swapping to AoE Magic Tanking to be best for me. Took me 22 Turns. Above 50% I was using AoE Physical but with Ramza configured to have 100% evade his SPR was lower than I'd have liked and occasionally he'd die from the ST Magic attack if he used it too many times.

My Team was:
 * Basch (Twilight Guard, SPR break, DEF break(or guard). Ribbon equipped, but Jeweled Ring would have worked)
 * ST 100% Evade eh Merc Ramza (Stone Throw, Blades of Justice, Mind Break) Free Ribbon effect from Trait.
 * PS Rydia and Lexa as Tornado chainers
 * MS Nichol (but most any buffer that can help with MP management works..eh Zargabaath was my option 2)
 * LM Fina (overkill to be honest at this point, but it was the first healer on the friend list I saw)

--Caelvanm (talk) 17:47, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

The Slow Method: If You Have to Survive for the Long Haul
For those who aren't able to burst down Titan from his 50% mark and have to live through multiple turns after his threshold, this is for you.

The primary issue most users have is they can't survive after Titan snorts one of their units. The key is to create a team that can withstand Titan's hits and use the 6th unit as the sacrificial lamb to the snort.

My team comprised:
 * Emperor: Only real damage dealer. With Ramuh equipped, he was at 1023 pre-buff MAG. This led to a reliable 7-8% of Titan's HP after the 4th or 5th turn of using Fire From Below.
 * Noctis: Full evade and upgraded Fish+1. He'll be provoking throughout the entire fight other than after you hit the 50% threshold. More on that later.
 * Awakened Rain: Magic cover. Also, supplemented status immunity for team via Lakshmi.
 * Maritime Strategist Nichol: Buffs, damage reduction, and earth resistance via esper (Golem or Titan).
 * Ayaka: Doing Ayaka things. Important that she can dispel Titan after his 50% threshold buff. She also needs to have silence immunity (after 50%, Ttian will silence every second turn).
 * Friend unit: Anyone with 100% provoke. That's all that matters.

Stats
 * SPR: Since my team had no AoE physical cover, everyone had to be able to take Titan's Severe Earthquake move (physical attack, but magic damage). My lowest SPR was on Emperor (303 base), and after Nichol's Fortune Stance and [Impregnable Stance]] he took just shy of 4,000 damage.
 * All else doesn't matter, though great ATK/MAG will obviously speed up the fight.
 * Status immunity: You'll have to contend with paralysis and stone during the first half. After the 50%, you'll also have to worry about confusion. Gear up as needed. My team was immune to confusion and stone, but I was missing some paralysis. So, I put Lakshmi on A. Rain and he added the paralysis immunity skill into his rotation. Don't worry if your friend unit doesn't have confusion resistance. S/he won't live long enough for that to matter.

Above 50%
 * Step 1: Summon Leviathan. Since the fight will be much tighter after the 50% threshold, do yourself a favor and just get the esper summon out of the way in the beginning. He's much easier during this time and you'll easily find a moment to summon without putting the team at risk. Do regular attacks with units who don't have to do something part of their rotation (e.g., Emperor all the time, A. Rain every third turn, Noctis every other turn, etc.).
 * NOTE: For Titan's first turn he adds earth element to your physiscal attacks. Just wait it out for 4 turns and the buff will drop off. You can then start hitting for physical without issues. He won't use that move again until each of the thresholds.
 * Step 2: Get to 80% threshold.
 * Emperor hits with Fire From Below
 * Noctis rotates between Fish and Cover or Thunder Flask (to lower SPR).
 * A. Rain rotates magic cover (optional: status immunity to paralysis or stone if your team needs it). Otherwise, guard or get a few potshots in.
 * MS Nichol: Rotate Iron Stance (DEF to help against Severe Earthquake), Safeguard Stance (helps magic cover), Demonic Stance (boosts Emperor's damage), Impregnable Stance. Use [Magic Restorative Stance]] on off turns, if needed.
 * Ayaka: Heal each turn.
 * Step 3: At 80% threshold. Make sure you have stone resistance up when you hit 80%. Other than that, should be fine. He also adds earth element to your team again. Wait it out, dispel your own team (if you're feeling brave and think you can get all your buffs up the same turn), or ignore it (if using magic damage).
 * Step 4: Get to 50% threshold. Same step 2.
 * Exception: Prepare your team for the 50% threshold. Before you do the damage that takes Titan to 50% or lower, make sure you're on your last provoke turn for whoever you're using for provoke. E.g., Titan is at 51%, Noctis is provoking and is on his 2nd provoke turn (so it'll drop off next turn). Damage Titan so he hits the threshold. Also make sure you have stone resistance again.
 * Step 5: At 50% threshold. Titan will buff himself. This needs to be dispeled (Ayaka is handy here since she can both dispel and heal still). Other than that, he won't do much damage. Provoke with your sacrificial provoke unit.

Below 50%
 * Step 6: Immediately after Titan's 50% threshold moves, he'll remove a unit the next turn. If you're provoking with your sacrificial unit, that unit will be the one to go. With everyone else, guard with whoever isn't doing something important (i.e., rebuffing, healing).
 * Step 7: Finishing the fight. If you made it here intact without people dying, congrats. The toughest part is over.
 * Emperor: Damage
 * Noctis: Back to provoking. Rotate with ATK break if he's hitting you for too much for comfort. Otherwise, you can Cover.
 * A. Rain: Magic cover and rotate status ailment immunity as needed. Note, Titan will inflict confuse on every even-numbered turn, so you now need to make sure you have paralyze, stone, AND confuse resistance on all your units at all times. Since magic covering and casting immunity for all three ailments is not possible (4 moves but 3 turns), make sure your whole team is immune to at least one of these. Supplement as needed.
 * MS Nichol: Rotate between stat buffs/damage reduction on one turn, and earth resistance (via Barstonra from your esper) on the other turn. Rinse and repeat. I used Fortune Stance to get more DEF and SPR + some healing, and I was still almost losing Emperor each turn.
 * Ayaka: She'll be busy healing each turn. On turns when Nichol needs to cast Barstonra and he is inflicted with Silence, she can Esunaga and then heal. You can also use Reraise if needed, but if anyone but your damage dealer is dying, you're probably not going to make it til the end.
 * Friend sacrificial unit: Off who knows where.

That did it for me. I lasted another 12 more turns this way until I killed Titan. Good luck to you!

--Lvrenoan (talk) 02:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

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dRedwick--

If you are on a budget (but have enhanced your units):

---Units:

Warrior of Light

MS Nichol

Ayaka

Barbariccia

Trance Terra

Barbariccia or Trance Terra (friend w/ 1000+ MAG)

---Builds:

Build everyone for max SPR since Titan's magic based attacks hit everyone.

Build everyone to resist petrify, paralyze, silence, and confusion (resisting paralysis is a must, but you can do without resisting petrify if you have a healer that can heal stone).

Build WoL for 100% Evasion.

Build MS Nichol for max MP.

Build Ayaka for max MP.

Build Barbariccia for max MAG, max ATK, and max MP.

Build Terra Trance for max MAG, max ATK, and max MP.

---What to do:

Use WoL's "Light is with us!" to soak up the physical attacks. If he is 100% evasion he will not be hurt by physical attacks, though he will then be hit 3-4 times with magic damage that will probably kill him. Because of this, almost every turn you will need to use Ayaka's "Reraise" on WoL, which means you will have to use "Light is with us!" every time he is killed. If you survive any of the rounds then use "Arms Eraser" and "Armor Eraser", or simply use "Full Break" if he is dying often and you have a hard time squeezing in both erasers.

Use MS Nichol's "Linked Stance" with "Soulful Stance" and "Impregnable Stance" to boost your units and reduce damage taken. You will need to repeat this every 3rd round since "Soulful Stance" only lasts 2 rounds. Then use "Dualcast" and "Magic Restorative Stance" inbetween to boost your MP.

Use Barbariccia's (both if you have Barbariccia as a friend) "Dual Black Magic" with "Tornado" and "Aeroja" over and over. Try to time their attacks at the same time, or as close to each other as possible.

Use Trance Terra's "Magical Activation" the first round, then "Successor Maduin's Power" with "Chaos Wave" twice, then "Successor Maduin's Power" with "Chaos Wave Awakened" twice, then repeat until you have to use "Magical Activation" again to regain the "Chaos Wave Awakened" ability. If someone dies you can use "Full-Life" to revive them, or even use "Dual White Magic" with "Cura" twice to heal your units if Ayaka is busy doing something else.

Use Ayaka's "Dual White Magic" with "Reraise" on WoL and Ayaka. This has to be repeated every 4th round so that they are always covered. Most likely WoL will be killed each round so you will be casting "Reraise" on him often, and either "Reraise" on Ayaka or "Curaja" to heal everyone. Basically she will act as a healer and as a reraiser for WoL.

---Notes:

The match is quite simple if your units are built properly. It took me awhile to get it figured out, but once I got into the groove I was able to defeat him within 6 rounds or so. Some of the most important things to do:

Use WoL's "Light is with us!" every round if he is killed. Make sure he is 100% evasion. Make sure he has high SPR.

Use MS Nichol to restore your MP and to boost your parties stats.

Use Barbariccia's dual wind attacks every time, same order. If you have two of her then use them as close to each other as possible. If you have three Barbariccias then you should win in 2-3 rounds.

Use your healer to keep reraising WoL. That is important.

Don't stress on the 50% thing. Simply repeat the above pattern and you will win quickly and the last round Titan will be decimated.

dRedwick--

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Testimonial - Geryth
Tank and spank strategy using no evade tank. Titan actually doesn't hit very hard and is ATK breakable at only 800 attack so this is a pretty friendly fight to those without an evade tank. It's more about mitigating the magic damage.

Everyone needs paralyze/stone resistance or someone who's immune that can cure those ailments every turn. Here's the team:
 * Warrior of Light - He needs high HP/DEF but a focus too on SPR. Mine did fine at 9253 HP, 604 DEF, and 488 SPR. He can lose some of that DEF for more SPR if needed.
 * Veritas of Earth - Also needs decent HP and a lot of SPR. He should only be taking magic damage. Mine did fine at 8731 HP and 432 SPR.
 * MS Nichol - He won't be taking any damage so build him however you want. Mine had 555 SPR and 470 MP. His only requirement is Leviathan for mission reward.
 * Lila #1 - Equip a wind elemental weapon, some physical man killer, and as much SPR as you can after that. Mine had 644 SPR, 75% man killer, and used Sonic Knuckles for wind element. Avoid holy wand cause we don't want holy element.
 * Lila #2 - Equip wind elemental weapon, some physical man killer, and as much SPR as you can after that. Mine had 660 SPR, 50% man killer, and used Wind Spear for wind element. Avoid holy wand cause we don't want holy element. Also had World Destroyer for turn 1 breaks.
 * Friend LM Fina - Any healer will work really, I never needed reraise and since I failed to gear for paralyze/petrify she just spammed esunaga/curaja every turn. With MS Nichol having solid heals on Fortune Stance you can get by with a sub par healer, especially if you gear against status ailments and can focus on healing. Friend LM Fina came with 5k HP and 750 SPR.

So WoL covers the Severe Earthquakes which come as magic damage and the normal attacks, and VoE provokes the Gigantic Feasts which also come as magic damage, so you see why SPR matters. This is all the damage we need to worry about and we're going to OTK from 51%-0% before any earth damage comes into play. Here's the first few turns and getting setup:


 * 1) Turn 1
 * 2) * WoL - Light is With Us
 * 3) * VoE - Incinerating Press
 * 4) * MS Nichol - Fortune Stance + Impregnable Stance
 * 5) * Lila #1 - Heaven's Scar + Heaven's Shift
 * 6) * Lila #2 - World Destroyer for 35% breaks.
 * 7) * LM Fina - Nothing to do either, I tossed around reraise but didn't need it.
 * 8) Turn 2
 * 9) * WoL - Arms Breaker
 * 10) * VoE - Omni Block
 * 11) * MS Nichol - Courageous Stance + Impregnable Stance
 * 12) * Lila's - nothing, they have earth element on attack
 * 13) * LM Fina - I didn't gear for status ailments so she did Esunaga + Curaja every turn
 * 14) Turn 3
 * 15) * WoL - Defend
 * 16) * VoE - Incinerating Press
 * 17) * MS Nichol - Fortune Stance
 * 18) * Lila's - Nothing, still have earth element
 * 19) * LM Fina - Esunaga + Curaja
 * 20) Turn 4 - You are now in rotation with WoL, VoE, MS Nichol, and LM Fina. Here's what we do with our Lila's:
 * 21) * Nothing because they still have earth elemental attack
 * 22) Turn 5
 * 23) * Standard rotation for WoL, VoE, MS Nichol, and LM Fina
 * 24) * Lila's should chain Tojin Combo since it scales on ATK. This is purposeful to do low damage to build esper gauge
 * 25) Turn 6 through Turn N
 * 26) * Standard rotation for WoL, VoE, MS Nichol, and LM Fina
 * 27) * Lila's keep chaining Tojin Combo untl esper gauge is full

When the esper gauge is full then use MS Nichol to summon Leviathan in lieu of his next Courageous Stance. We need Fortune Stance to keep DEF/SPR up but Courageous Stance is only for the mana regen and we can skip that once in MS Nichol's rotation to get the esper summon mission.

After that then drop Tojin Combo from your Lila's and start pouring down the rain of Heaven's Scar for break and then Heaven's Shift chaining. These Lila's are no joke and they rip Titan apart. Once the 80% threshold is reached your team will get hit with earth elemental on their attacks again for three turns, just keep turtling until it wears off and then get back to damaging with your Lila's. Once Titan gets just below 60% start preparing for the OTK.

I didn't bring status ailment resist so I couldn't rely on LM Fina for my magic kill mission so it was up to my MS Nichol for that so just like leviathan I had to time my OTK on the turn he would normally cast Courageous Stance for him to cast some magic spells for the kill with magic mission. You have to time this with your Lila's to cast Neidan on the turn prior to the OTK so they can triple cast Heaven's Shift. This means the turn before they use Neidan you need to refresh Heaven's Scar so 50% SPR break is active on the OTK turn (so Heaven's Scar used two turns before the OTK).

The OTK turn is easy - triple cast and spark chain Heaven's Shift and use magic with MS Nichol so it does damage after 0% so you get credit for the magic kill mission. My two Lila's OTK'd Titan with ease from 58%. -

Cleared last night. Not too hard but it was a DPS race for me and hoping he didn't use Gigantic Feast cleared it in 5turns.

My Party: Earthlord: Full evade used Guardian and Earthen Ward 100% Earth resist with Carbuncle for dispel. BS Sakura MAG 1067 Lexa MAG 724 Rinoa MAG 685 Tilith MP Battery and Stona Friend: 7star Olive

First 1: buff and debuff Earthlord used Guardian, Sakura Used Quick Combo Refresh and Magic. Lexa used Zephry Mount. Rinoa used Armor Slicer. Tilith did...🤔 stuff? Olive used Empowering Shot for Attack boost.

Turn 2: Earthlord used Earthen Ward Lexa and Rinoa chained Tornados, Sakura and Olive finished out the chain with Quick Final Thunder x2 and Immolation Blast. Tilith raised Olive.

Turn 3 to 5: Earthlord used dispel to get rid of Giantic Growth buff. Lexa and Rinoa continued to chain with Sakura and Olive finishing out the chain with Empowering Shot until the big guy went down. Something I noticed was whenever Olive was petrified the add earth element to physical attacks wasn't there when Tilith used stona.